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Caliadne
Posted: June 7, 2005 | 12:13 GMT
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On the topic of Styx.
Isn't it a little strange that the Nymphe Styx appears picking flowers with Persephone in the Nysian meadow prior to her abduction? She seems a little out of place amongst her sister Okeanides, who all seem to be quite lovely with names like Amber, Violet, Honey, Rose, Sweet-Flowing, Fast-Flowing, Apple-Feeder, Wealth, Fortune, Heavenly, Milky-Breeze, etc.

Can we assume she is here just the Nymphe of the Arkadian stream, who descended into the underworld only after her mistress's abduction?
Like Hekate in the same story, who is strangely absent from the company, unless she is "disguised" under another name before her chthonic descent. "Iakhe" perhaps? A very Eleusinian name - iakhe, the joy of cry celebrating the return of Kore in spring.

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"All we were playing in a lovely meadow, Leukippe and Phaino and Elektra and Ianthe, Melita also and Iakhe with Rhodea and Kallirhoe and Melobosis and Tykhe and Okyrhoe, fair as a flower, Khryseis, Ianeira, Akaste and Admete and Rhodope and Plouto and charming Kalypso; Styx too was there and Ourania and lovely Galaxaura with Pallas [Athena] who rouses battles and Artemis delighting in arrows: we were playing and gathering sweet flowers in our hands, soft crocuses mingled with irises and hyacinths, and rose-blooms and lilies, marvellous to see, and the narcissus which the wide earth caused to grow yellow as a crocus." - Homeric Hymn 2 to Demeter 415


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Sten
Posted: June 7, 2005 | 13:19 GMT
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Well, it seems that the idea of the nymph Styx corresponds to the physical environment
of the Styx river in Arkadia. As Kice pointed this, in its name there is an alternative meaning of flowing down from up on high. And from there it (she) is plunging into the "deepest" place...and taking Kore-Persephone with her, now and then!? - Styx is like a short-cut between the heavens and hell!!

The ways of Hekate are different. She is supposed(?) to emerge from Hades every night with Her entourage; but what about going back each dawn!? It`s told that you can meet her at the crossroads and maybe it`s good news for someone, who has some magic aims to attain. In medieval Europe there was a custom of banishing (or burying) a witch "behind" some magic crossroads again.

And we are here back again at the problem of a presence of Hades features within the world of living humans. Some special rivers, as well as roads and crossroads were put aside for those phenomena. Only when studying the Greek magic, all those things can be set into some context, I suppose.


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Posted: June 7, 2005 | 20:36 GMT
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QUOTE (Caliadne @ June 7, 2005 | 12:13 GMT)
On the topic of Styx.
Isn't it a little strange that the Nymphe Styx appears picking flowers with Persephone in the Nysian meadow prior to her abduction?

Perhaps she was spying on Persephone for her master.


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Caliadne
Posted: June 7, 2005 | 21:23 GMT
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Haha, Demeter must have been a bit dense not spotting the mole ...
Persephone introduces her playmates to mum: "This is Honey, Rose, Violet, Milk, Hatred, Amber, FairFlow .. "

Hatred (Styx) really does stick out like a sore thumb!

But I guess when you name your daughter Persephone (Destructive Murderess?) a pal named Styx (Hatred) would go unnoticed.


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Kice Brown
Posted: June 8, 2005 | 4:24 GMT
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and she should have been a little suspicious of chthonic Kalypso and Plouto as well, n'est-ce pas? But for balance there's the heavenly Ourania.


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Posted: June 8, 2005 | 11:33 GMT
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I can just imagine overprotective Demeter going:
- Now Persephone, I don't want you to play with that Styx. She's nog proper company for you and will only get you into troubble.

And P:
- Mum! That's none of your business!!! I hang with whoever I want, even if he happens to be Tartarus himself!


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Caliadne
Posted: June 8, 2005 | 14:02 GMT
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Yep, sounds like she was hanging out with the Goth chicks even before her trip down to Hades. In the end, they seem a match made in "heaven" (or rather hell).

Is Kalypso really a chthonic name? I know it means something like Hide or Hidden, but I thought it was just the opposite of another Okeanis in the list, Phaino (Appear).


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Frida
Posted: June 9, 2005 | 18:37 GMT
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I always wondered who was the one most eager to have Persephone up again. Herself or her mama who didn't approve of her bf. Perhaps P ended up fine with staying down under :-)


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